BODIES AND ASTRAL LIGHT

[mensagitat]

http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/et/et-25.htm

The first paragraph is my paraphrasing G de Purucker.

When the human soul withdraws at what is called the moment of 'death,' the human body loses its individualized coherence. The body is now diffuse life without the dominating control of a centralized inner government. The body is actually alive as ever, and this can be shown in a number of ways, and one of them is its breaking up into its component elements, called dissolution or disintegration.

What I paste below is the transitions of atomic number and atomic weight, as Uranium 1 naturally decays. Atomic number is the number of protons which always have an exact number of electrons, i.e., one proton, one atom. Atomic weight is the sum of protons and neutrons. The latter have no accompanying electron.

"...name -- atomic number -- atomic weight -- radioactivity (350)
Uranium I -- 92 -- 238 --

Uranium X1 -- 90 -- 234 -- ,

Uranium X2 -- 91 -- 234 -- ,

Uranium II -- 92 -- 234 --

Ionium -- 90 -- 230 --

Radium -- 88 -- 226 --

Radium Emanation -- 86 -- 222 --

Radium A -- 84 -- 218 --

Radium B -- 82 -- 214 -- ,

Radium C -- 83 -- 214 -- , ,

Radium D -- 82 -- 210 -- ,

Radium E -- 83 -- 210 -- ,

Radium F (Polonium) -- 84 -- 210 --

Lead -- 82 -- 206
It is to be noted that the atomic weight of this uranium-lead is given as 206; the atomic weight of ordinary lead is 207; and the final product or end of the similar thorium-series is lead also, but its atomic weight Soddy has found to be 208. All these three kinds of lead possess identical chemical properties and by ordinary processes of analysis are indistinguishable; and yet they possess the distinct difference that they vary in weight.

Now this illustration, taken from the wonderful studies of modern chemical researchers, may perhaps give us by picture some inkling of what takes place in the so-called 'dead' human body. It is decaying; it is as full of life as ever it was -- in fact, more full of diffuse life, because now that the overlordship of the dominating influence has been withdrawn, every infinitesimal part of it is seeking its freedom as an individual, and the result is bodily anarchy or death, so called..."

There are certain points in my study, where the mention is made concerning incremental increase in naturally occurring radiation, within our future upon the ascending node. Energy seems to be emitted as they combine, but also due to natural dissolution.

The chapter from which I'm making assertions is in regard to the Astal Light and the Life Atoms. I have an incomplete thought-form, concerning all we think and say and do being the alembic adding to, or taking away, from our Character. I use the word character the same way one might use skandha's. Not as replacement of the latter, but simply because Purucker refers to the word often.

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Note there fourteen designations that might be seen in the first as well as this second post. Both posts are from the same link.



1. Pneuma ------------------ Atman
2. Nous --------------------- Buddhi-manas
3. Phren -------------------- Higher Manas
4. Thumos ------------------ Kama-manas
5. Bios ---------------------- Prana
6. Phantasma or Phasma - Linga-sarira
7. Soma --------------------- Sthula-sarira
As concerns the analogical application of the above hierarchical or graded list to the Earth-globe itself, pretty much all that the reader or student need do is to substitute the term Paramatman or Supreme Atman as first or (1) in the list; to put Alaya-Swabhavat or Cosmic Maha-buddhi as second in the list; to put Mahat as (3); to put Manasaputric Hierarchies as (4); likewise to substitute the generalizing Sanskrit term Jiva or Cosmic Jiva for Prana; to change Linga-sarira to Astral World; and to put Earth as the Seventh or last:

1. Paramatman
2. Alaya-Swabhavat or Cosmic Maha-buddhi
3. Mahat
4. Manasaputric Hierarchies
5. Cosmic Jiva
6. Astral World
7. Earth

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http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/et/et-19.htm


"...Certain ones of such words often employed as being virtually synonymous are:

1. Pre-existence
2. Reimbodiment
3. Rebirth
4. Palingenesis
5. Transmigration
6. Metempsychosis
7. Reincarnation
8. Metensomatosis, this last being as it were an appendix to the other seven."

--Each of the eight terms above have their definitions in the text below the above list, at the link provided. I just want to paste how G. de Purucker had taken them altogether in one paragraph.--

"It were, however, a mistaking of their respective meanings to consider any one of them, or indeed all of them, as having no application, or only an application in the cases of a few of them, to the various imbodiments of the human ego; because, as a matter of fact, every single one of these eight terms, and all of them, are applicable, each with its own particular significancy of meaning, to different parts or events of the history -- antenatal as well as post-mortem -- of the human soul. Thus: the human soul not only 'pre-exists' but it 'reimbodies' itself, and in doing so takes 'rebirth' on this Earth, and it does so by means of psycho-astral 'palingenesis,' accomplished by means of its own particular manner of 'transmigration,' the whole process largely being marked by the 'metempsychosis' through which it passes, bringing about 'reincarnation' or returning to human fleshly bodies on Earth, thus filling its need for 'bodifying' its faculties and attributes in this sphere."

I think it sort of odd, expedient or just plain generalized to the point of error or fallacy, for someone to use only one of the words above as the entire explanation involved with The General Doctrine of Reimbodiment.

[sara morgan]

Do not forget Sulphur and Salt as part of this equasion.

[mensagitat]

What do you mean by sulphur and salt? Almost all the words in the above post, are from "The Esoteric Tradition" by G. de Purucker.

I personally made a reference to a couple of people stating a position taken by some that rebirth is believed in, and others that reincarnation is believed in. I mostly illustrated in the above, the idea that those two words fit-in with a larger number of words as a whole.

It is the ideal of the General Doctrine of Reimbodiment, which Philo Judaeus is known to have expressed to the Greeks by showing that Moses and Plato had an almost identic teaching.

Flavius Josephus also made numerous mentioning of this same teaching. If either of the two are to be discredited, then everyone conventional to them are to fall under this same fate.

[mensagitat]

The U 238 is the moment of death, thus it irradiates. I'd say the Lead is analogical to bones.

The chart showing the U 238 and subsequent steps as transmutations upon the radiations is simply one small analogy among many, attempting to point toward our understanding death as only a perceivable event.

In that the Higher Life components being gone, the deceased body composed of countless lives strive to free themselves, no longer being bound by the Higher human principles.

[bupanishad2012]

Pre-existence is a dogma of the Mormon Church. It breaks all the laws of Cartesian philosophy, however. The Mormons (of which HPB mentioned in the Introduction to Book II of "Isis Unveiled") have a very comic-book view of gods and goddesses and how they propagate souls before earth-life in some planetary heaven or other. (No so much different than the Muslims regarding the after-life, with the abundance of wives and whatnot.) Pre-existence causes all sorts of problems in regard to philosophical concepts, however, and deals mostly with the ideas of destiny and pre-destination, etc. The "adamant" is that THIS life is all we really know and it is not to be wasted in futilely seeking materialistic ends. See Leibniz's "Theodicy" for more in this regard.

[Nick the Pilot]

The idea of pre-existence is one of the most important things missing from Christianity. Christianity says we did not exist before our present incarnation, that we were specifically created for this birth. I am glad to see that Mormonism takes a different view. Does Mormonism get anywhere near teaching the idea of reincarnation? Does Mormonism get anywhere near the idea that there was a First Race of humans, existing on the astral plane but not the physical plane?

[bupanishad2012]

Actually, I would have to say "yes" since they believe that we are all born spiritually before we are born physically. But they believe it in a very literal way. As I said, this goes against every principle of Catrtesian philosophy in that the Mormons drag everything from the spiritual sphere into the physical sphere, even advocating that god the father had sexual relations with Mary to produce Jesus. Every "worthy" Momon goes to a separate planet to become pologamous after death and produce more souls for incarnation, but no hint of RE-incarnation abides anywhere in their view of things.

[Nick the Pilot]

It seems that every religion has a hint of the ideals that are taught in Theosophy. This is apparenly true of even Mormonism. But saying that such things all happen on the physical plane seems to be a bit much. It is fascinating see how belief systems evolve as the centuries go by.

[bupanishad2012]

Mormonism has indeed evolved much as it has come through history, but I doubt if it will ever reach the point where reincarnation will be accepted per se. Mostly, it has accomodated itself to every whim of those around them, as in the case of polygamy and letting African-Americans into the priesthood. It has always been a very materialistic, compromising religion in practice. I could tell you more, and sadder, tales about the religion of the Mormons, but it is not appropriate here. As to Theosophy being a part of something in every religion, well that just seems to beg the question since Theosophy is by its very nature syncretistic and eclectic.

[Nick the Pilot]

HPB said that all organized religion becomes decadent and incorrect as the centuries go by. (That's why the Ancient Wisdom has to be re-released every so often, as HPB did.) I'm afraid that Mormonism suffers in this way just like every other organized religion.

[bupanishad2012]

According to the Mormon's own accounting, they are not evolving or getting worse, but getting better and better---as witnessed by the fact that they are growing by leaps and bounds and are now the third largest "Christian" denomination in the USA. That all proves nothing, of course, and certainly does not prove the truth of what they advocate---just that they are able to grow because they are one cult that is able to bilk tithes out of their growing population. Money talks! The Mormon church raking of billions from the gambling and perversity of Las Vegas helps a lot in their climb, too. No doubt they have some interesting---not necessarily truthful---teachings, but I, for one, have been to their summum bonum, their Temples, and I am not impressed. Do you get the impression that I have a real antipathy towards Mormonism? You would be right! I have felt cheated and emotionally abused and made a fool of ever since I ever thought it was a good idea to join them back in my past. Unlike Theosophy which gets brighter and brighter as you get into it, Mormonism gets more and more tarnished and absurd the deeper you get into it. The Japanese "Sokka Gakkai" can certainly outdo them in extravagant productions, and both are flamboyant cults. What, for instance, can a polygamist cult like the Mormons tell me about the sanctity of the monogamous family, for god's sake? That's only one thing. But, I will get off my bandwagon for now. Sorry (not really) to have offended any Mormons or their sympathizers.

[Nick the Pilot]

"According to the Mormon's own accounting, they are not evolving or getting worse, but getting better and better...."

--> The Mormon organization may be going the way of most organized religions in this world, but it sounds like the individual members are making progress towards enlightenment (but not in a way that resembles the Theosophical way). But they are making progress, no matter how slow. To me, the most important thing in life is making progress towards enlightenment.

[bupanishad2012]

I'm not questioning the Mormon individual's spirituality, mind you, only their big Church Corporation which usually tends to cultism and mind control. Did I feel controlled? Hell, yes! And they don't give up even if you ask to be dropped from the rolls. Can an individual (a monad) make evolutionary progress in the Mormon Church? Of course! But, the cultishness of it almost makes you lie to progress in the Corporation. Scientology and the Jehovah's Witnesses are similar (although I have more respect for these groups---being outside of them), but almost any "New Age" cult can make you a credulous, mindless individual. This is not confined to the old religions such as the Roman Catholic Church (remember the Inquisition just killed people without any spiritual advancement at all). You said "thank goodness there is no Pope" in Theosophy. Well, thank god there is no Inquisition for any of the new cults (and I would include Theosophy in this also even though I do not consider it a "cult.")!