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dan020350 - March 30, 2007 01:56 AM (GMT)
I want to introduce Annie Besant or (Helena Blavsky) in my feminist empiricism class.


But I cannot draw the connection between Annie Besant with Feminist Empiricim.
Can anyone help me out. Theosophists.

Unless, Annie Besant is not an feminist empiricism then she cannot be introduce.
I suppose I would have to use Quine.

Nick the Pilot - March 30, 2007 03:03 AM (GMT)
In researching the term Feminist Empiricism, I came up with two definitions.

(1) gathering data on male- vs. female-perceived roles in society

"Feminist Empiricism -- is data that is collected based on women's real life experiences. This would involve talking to women about whether or not they have felt discriminated against based on their gender or talking to men about why they don't ever think about combining their career with childrearing as a clue to finding out why most women still have two jobs."

http://www.feminist.com/askamy/womhist/wh89.html

(2) determining whether scientific enquiry can have male-specific, female-specific and/or sex-neutral forms, and whether they make a difference in research

"Feminist empiricism - argues that sexism and androcentrism are social biases correctable by stricter adherence to the existing methodological norms of scientific inquiry. Feminism removes blinders and bias to produce better accounts of the world."

http://www.feminist.com/askamy/womhist/604_wh1.html

"Broadly speaking, feminist empiricism is any epistemology that combines empiricist methodology with feminist political goals. It is a matter of controversy, however, whether this combination is viable. Many feminists believe that empiricist methods are by their nature incompatible with the pursuit of feminist political goals. Sandra Harding, for example, has argued that the goal of removing sexism and androcentrism from science cannot be achieved by applying the existing empiricist norms of scientific inquiry."

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb14...401/ai_n5890640

"Is rationality gendered? Are scientific conceptions of objectivity "masculine"? What could it mean to make such claims, and how could they be justified? What should a feminist conception of knowledge look like?"

http://www.mit.edu/~shaslang/courses/486syl+.html

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Which of these is your definition of Feminist Empiricism?

dan020350 - March 30, 2007 03:47 AM (GMT)
I am planing to use feminism epistemology on standpoint.
constructing a theory of knowledge ( a way to acess knowledge) base on Annie Besant but I do not know how can it be apporve by my teacher base on her bias on me. Meaning I am a poor writer. I need to be affirm by this theosophical website.

Hurry nick and give me a reply. ;)

Nick the Pilot - March 30, 2007 04:05 AM (GMT)
Let's see. You want to construct a way to access a knowledge base, based on Annie Besant's writings.

(1) Besant wrote many books.

(2) Besant was very active in the woman sufferage movement, and in the Indian Independence from England movement.

Are either of these what you are looking for?

dan020350 - March 30, 2007 04:10 AM (GMT)
How can I relate it to feminist epistemology in any ways/ categories. Or standpoint theory?

did Annie Besant have a different perspective how she view the world( patricarchal society) or how knowledge or truth be access?

Nick the Pilot - March 30, 2007 04:52 AM (GMT)
I feel Besant did not have a different perspective on how she viewed the world (patricarchal society). So, I feel Besant will not fit into the feminist epistemology paper you are writing.

dan020350 - March 30, 2007 10:34 AM (GMT)
Thanks, but I will try to use Krishnmaurti instead, using my first senior seminar paper and the videos that given to watch at google.


ChristianMyst - March 31, 2007 02:38 AM (GMT)
Nick,

Wasn't Annie heavily involved with the early women's movement long before her foray's into Freemasonry, and subsequently Theosophy? I am thinking there may be a greater body of writings from her consider her greater involvement with society than we as Theosophists understand her.

Christian

Nick the Pilot - March 31, 2007 04:17 AM (GMT)
Christian,

Yes, Annie was very involved with the early women's movement. However, Dano's question was regarding Annie's use of Feminist Empiricism. Of this, I have no knowledge.

dan020350 - March 31, 2007 04:43 AM (GMT)
darn, you guys let me down.

Nick the Pilot - March 31, 2007 06:01 AM (GMT)
a quick bio of Annie

http://womenshistory.about.com/od/freethou...nnie_besant.htm

another bio

http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/fl1420/14201140.htm

Annie as a leader in the Women's Suffrage Movement

http://www.worldbook.com/features/whm/html/whm013.html

Theosophy and ... women's movements....

http://www.stelling.nl/simpos/poldieng.htm

Female Indian Freedom Fighters

http://www.liveindia.com/freedomfighters/jhansi.html

The Match Workers Strike Fund Register

http://www.unionhistory.info/matchworkers/matchworkers.php

Annie Besant by Annie Besant

http://www.fullbooks.com/Annie-Besant5.html

Women in Tamil Society - Ideology, Nation & Gender

http://www.tamilnation.org/women/index.htm

Emancipating India's Women; Discrimination as Part of Hindu Culture

http://www.freeindiamedia.com/women/23_dec_women.htm

Work and Life - Helen Wilkinson

http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/30/wilkinson.html

dan020350 - April 1, 2007 04:32 AM (GMT)
Thank you
These resources will be helpful to back up Krishnamurti, stating Male oppression and experience is the same as woman ( feminism). I think this concept I read was FEminist pedagogy.

But anyways thax man. I hope this forum will be successful.




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