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Title: Israel/Palestine
Description: Holistic peace plan


Ro-fhessa - March 24, 2006 01:54 AM (GMT)
0) The talk of uniting the Palestinians may have some merit, but it could also/alternatively be harmful. Any beginning towards true peace/resolution surely must consider that the Palestinians/Arabs are not a homogenous people but have various origins, so it is necessary to sort out the different groups which make up the Palestinians. Then certain areas could be allocated according to historical criteria: Gaza (Philistines), maj of Trans-Jordan (Ammonites, Moabites, Edomites, Nabataeans), Dome of the Rock (Ishmaelites, Jebusites). The rest of Israel/Palestine/min of Trans-Jordan/Jerusalem would be assigned to the Israelis/Jews esp in S/W and to communities/districts of "Palestinians" (Canaanites) esp in N/E/Fatahland/Sinai. The Israeli parliament & govt should incld all existing polit parties (right/Likud, labour, Kadimah, religious) equally instead of electoral competition. The Palestinian authority should incld all existing groups (Fatah, Hamas, secular, Marxists) equally instead of electoral competition. There should be a combined assembly of Israeli & Palestinian reps/houses, &/or Palest seat(s) in Israeli Parl and Israeli seat(s) in Palest auth.

1) Agreement with the return of the Jews to Israel (leave the West), but end Western support for Zionism. Either: a) pull out completely and leave it up to God to defend them (may not work because risk of nuclear war), B) the West to go into Israel/Palestine (instead of into Iraq/Syria/Afghan) and forcibly sort the 2 sides out (prob won't work if God on their side and cp Mosad terrorism against British mandate), or c) the West to act as a genuine peacemaker/mediator (as opp to present serving Zionist interests).

2) End the Western Christian Crusader claim to the Holy Land since the West is no longer Xtian. Replacement theology wrong.
3) Reform the West's wide open door immigration policies (Arabs/Jews).
4) Stop forcing our bad Western system on other countries. Get rid of this Western system then they would want what we've got. The answer to the World's problems lies in fixing the West first.
5) Encourage interdenominational/comparative religious movements. All religions came from one. ("One World Religion").
6) Ask/listen to what the Arabs and Jews want and why, point out things that are not going to happen. The West are the ones not willing to truly negotiate. Point out facts like Moslems have 3 holy sites (& J-S only 3rd in imptce) but Jews only have 1.
7) Unite Moslem/Arab countries of SW Asia & N Africa into one bloc/region.
8) Grant equal right of Jews & Palestinians (or in the case of Iraq Sunnis, Shiites & Kurds) to control their own cultures & communities. Equality of Jewish & Palestinian land rights/claims (split/share). In some cases right of access of one or the other people to one or the others land.
9) The Jewish temple was not on the highest point of Moriah (Dome of the Rock) so there is no reason why both can't be there "side by side".
10) Encouragement of a Pan(en)theist/Monist/Corporativist/Organic/Folkish/anti-dualist/Theocratic/microcosm-macrocosm/holistic/dialectic movement/philosophy.
11) Point out to Arabs that being too emotional unlike the cold-blooded Jews limits their effectiveness in war.

Zionist visions of a Jewish state stretching from the Euphrates to the Nile may not be totally supported by the bible (interpretation) because it says "Abram's descendents" which possibly includes Arabs (& Xtians) too (Ishmael, Keturah, Edom) though the promise did only pass on to Isaac/Jacob (cp "Esau I have hated").

Xtians say that the Jews have returned to Israel, but only some, most still live in the Western world (New York, Hollywood).

If the claim that the Jews have so greatly transformed the land is so true then why did they not transform the Negeb for settlement instead of nuclear testing?

Refs: MA Murray, D Prince, AN Field, Paxton, Bible, [Osman/Salibi], Koestler, WG Simpson, A Currie, Bram, D Rohl, [Acknowls: Left Behind, UNO, BBC, B Klassen, OAS, KR Bolton, C Misler, JT Chick, Radio Pacific, SPS, Logos/Libronix, J Harwood, M Lacey, M Walker, talk-back.]

*Modern state of Israel (Israelis along coast and Palestinians in Samaria & Judea) is geographically opposite to the ancient nation of Israel betw Joshua & David (Hebrews in interior/hills and Canaanites along coast)!




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